LW on Big Sur

So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.

Michal

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Re: LW on Big Sur

Looks like there are several things that don't work on Big Sur. We just received a notice from the University NOT to upgrade as several basic services (e.g., VPN) are not working on Big Sur.

I just put in an order for a Surface Pro 7.

All the best

Marco

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 12:01 PM Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:

So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.

Michal

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Re: LW on Big Sur

Does not work for me, either (64-bit Hobbyist DV, latest version)

> On 14 Nov 2020, at 11:59 , Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
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> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
> 
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Re: LW on Big Sur

Can confirm.

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
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> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
> 
> Michal
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Re: LW on Big Sur

can confirm this. 
Is there anyone with paid version who can say this is happening? 
I’ve seen some messages on the net that some apple service for notarized applications might be down, and somebody even tried to filter that out on firewall with success(meaning the app they were trying to start actually started ok). 
But I’m rather new on Mac to fiddle with firewall (or at least find option to stop any app for specific target with built in firewall).

Any help would be nice, or confirmation from LispWork guys (Martin for example) that it should be working/was tested with Big Sur and it is not an issue of lispworks as an application, but probably OS and apple services.

still thinking about my xmass wishes. Maybe Hobbyist edition that works on Big Sur? Waiting for confirmation (and ideally version that will work when I upgrade to Apple silicon later on - not to pay the price twice)

Ladislav Koščo
laci.kosco@gmail.com

> On 14 Nov 2020, at 14:37, mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Can confirm.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
>> 
>> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
>> 
>> Michal
>> 
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Re: LW on Big Sur

I have a license for Lispworks Professional 64-bit on the Mac. On launch it drops into a breakloop with this message:

Error: Method address 140733788585061 was not aligned.

The backtrace looks like this:

Call to ERROR
Call to OBJC::INVOKE-INTO*
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::ENSURE-COCOA-INITIALIZED
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::RUN-COCOA-EVENT-LOOP
Call to MP::PROCESS-SG-FUNCTION
Call to MP::RUN-MAIN-PROCESS-ONCE
Call to MP::RUN-MAIN-PROCESS
Call to MP::MULTIPROCESSING-MAIN-LOOP
Call to MP::SHARED-INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING
Call to MP:INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING-COCOA
Call to CAPI-INTERNALS:START-ENVIRONMENT
Call to LISPWORKS-TOOLS:START-LISPWORKS
Call to ENVIRONMENT::START-CAPI-ENVIRONMENT
Call to (METHOD ENVIRONMENT-INTERNALS:ENVIRONMENT-START (ENVIRONMENT::CAPI-ENVIRONMENT))
Call to ENVIRONMENT:START-ENVIRONMENT
Call to ENVIRONMENT::I-RESTART-WITH-ENVIRONMENT-AUX

On Nov 16, 2020, at 3:58 AM, Ladislav Koščo <laci.kosco@gmail.com> wrote:

can confirm this.
Is there anyone with paid version who can say this is happening?
I’ve seen some messages on the net that some apple service for notarized applications might be down, and somebody even tried to filter that out on firewall with success(meaning the app they were trying to start actually started ok).
But I’m rather new on Mac to fiddle with firewall (or at least find option to stop any app for specific target with built in firewall).

Any help would be nice, or confirmation from LispWork guys (Martin for example) that it should be working/was tested with Big Sur and it is not an issue of lispworks as an application, but probably OS and apple services.

still thinking about my xmass wishes. Maybe Hobbyist edition that works on Big Sur? Waiting for confirmation (and ideally version that will work when I upgrade to Apple silicon later on - not to pay the price twice)

Ladislav Koščo
laci.kosco@gmail.com

On 14 Nov 2020, at 14:37, mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com> wrote:

Can confirm.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:

So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.

Michal

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Re: LW on Big Sur

Not sure if everybody knows how to deal with problems like that:

If one sees such an error, call in the error REPL

CL-USER 2 : 1 > :bug-form "give the error an descriptive title here"

Then one gets a bunch of output, including fields for more descriptions about the problem, a detailed backtrace, etc.

Add some information to it and send the output to the LispWorks support address, not the mailing list here.

For stuff like that it is likely that there is a patch available... ;-)

Am 16.11.2020 um 12:23 schrieb mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com>:

I have a license for Lispworks Professional 64-bit on the Mac. On launch it drops into a breakloop with this message:

Error: Method address 140733788585061 was not aligned.

The backtrace looks like this:

Call to ERROR
Call to OBJC::INVOKE-INTO*
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::ENSURE-COCOA-INITIALIZED
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::RUN-COCOA-EVENT-LOOP
Call to MP::PROCESS-SG-FUNCTION
Call to MP::RUN-MAIN-PROCESS-ONCE
Call to MP::RUN-MAIN-PROCESS
Call to MP::MULTIPROCESSING-MAIN-LOOP
Call to MP::SHARED-INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING
Call to MP:INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING
Call to CAPI-COCOA-LIBRARY::INITIALIZE-MULTIPROCESSING-COCOA
Call to CAPI-INTERNALS:START-ENVIRONMENT
Call to LISPWORKS-TOOLS:START-LISPWORKS
Call to ENVIRONMENT::START-CAPI-ENVIRONMENT
Call to (METHOD ENVIRONMENT-INTERNALS:ENVIRONMENT-START (ENVIRONMENT::CAPI-ENVIRONMENT))
Call to ENVIRONMENT:START-ENVIRONMENT
Call to ENVIRONMENT::I-RESTART-WITH-ENVIRONMENT-AUX

On Nov 16, 2020, at 3:58 AM, Ladislav Koščo <laci.kosco@gmail.com> wrote:

can confirm this.
Is there anyone with paid version who can say this is happening?
I’ve seen some messages on the net that some apple service for notarized applications might be down, and somebody even tried to filter that out on firewall with success(meaning the app they were trying to start actually started ok).
But I’m rather new on Mac to fiddle with firewall (or at least find option to stop any app for specific target with built in firewall).

Any help would be nice, or confirmation from LispWork guys (Martin for example) that it should be working/was tested with Big Sur and it is not an issue of lispworks as an application, but probably OS and apple services.

still thinking about my xmass wishes. Maybe Hobbyist edition that works on Big Sur? Waiting for confirmation (and ideally version that will work when I upgrade to Apple silicon later on - not to pay the price twice)

Ladislav Koščo
laci.kosco@gmail.com

On 14 Nov 2020, at 14:37, mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com> wrote:

Can confirm.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:

So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.

Michal

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Re: LW on Big Sur

On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Rainer Joswig <joswig@lisp.de> wrote:

Not sure if everybody knows how to deal with problems like that:

If one sees such an error, call in the error REPL

CL-USER 2 : 1 > :bug-form "give the error an descriptive title here"

Then one gets a bunch of output, including fields for more descriptions about the problem, a detailed backtrace, etc.

Add some information to it and send the output to the LispWorks support address, not the mailing list here.

Thanks for the reminder, Rainer.

For stuff like that it is likely that there is a patch available... ;-)

Not yet, it seems, but we may presume that one will be available soon.

Re: LW on Big Sur

Hi,

I confirm that LispWorks 7.1.2 (64-bit) runs "perfectly" on Big Sur, with the Motif-based GUI, so are all command-line LW images. ^_^

P. S. Xquartz 2.7.11 still works on Big Sur. The packages "openmotif" and "imlib2" can be easily installed from Homebrew. I didn't try the GTK-based GUI (but I guess it will also work), because LW only supports the X11-based GTK 2.x installed through Macports.

Regards,

Chun Tian

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:59, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
> 
> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
> 
> Michal
> 
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Re: LW on Big Sur

Yes, this is a known problem with LispWorks on Big Sur.

For the Hobbyist/HobbyistDV/Professional/Enterprise Edition users, we have
just uploaded a fix for it here:

http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/patch-selection.html#lw71bigsur

We will update that page if we find any other problems and make a new build of
the LispWorks Personal Edition.

-- 
Martin Simmons
LispWorks Ltd
http://www.lispworks.com/



>>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:58:38 +0100, Ladislav Koščo said:
> 
> can confirm this. 
> Is there anyone with paid version who can say this is happening? 
> I’ve seen some messages on the net that some apple service for notarized applications might be down, and somebody even tried to filter that out on firewall with success(meaning the app they were trying to start actually started ok). 
> But I’m rather new on Mac to fiddle with firewall (or at least find option to stop any app for specific target with built in firewall).
> 
> Any help would be nice, or confirmation from LispWork guys (Martin for example) that it should be working/was tested with Big Sur and it is not an issue of lispworks as an application, but probably OS and apple services.
> 
> still thinking about my xmass wishes. Maybe Hobbyist edition that works on Big Sur? Waiting for confirmation (and ideally version that will work when I upgrade to Apple silicon later on - not to pay the price twice)
> 
> Ladislav Koščo
> laci.kosco@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> > On 14 Nov 2020, at 14:37, mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Can confirm.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
> >> 
> >> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
> >> 
> >> Michal
> >> 
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Re: LW on Big Sur

I downloaded and applied it in Lispworks Professional 64-bit on macOS Big Sur. It seems to work perfectly after applying the patch.


> On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Martin Simmons <martin@lispworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, this is a known problem with LispWorks on Big Sur.
> 
> For the Hobbyist/HobbyistDV/Professional/Enterprise Edition users, we have
> just uploaded a fix for it here:
> 
> http://www.lispworks.com/downloads/patch-selection.html#lw71bigsur
> 
> We will update that page if we find any other problems and make a new build of
> the LispWorks Personal Edition.
> 
> -- 
> Martin Simmons
> LispWorks Ltd
> http://www.lispworks.com/
> 
> 
> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 10:58:38 +0100, Ladislav Koščo said:
>> 
>> can confirm this. 
>> Is there anyone with paid version who can say this is happening? 
>> I’ve seen some messages on the net that some apple service for notarized applications might be down, and somebody even tried to filter that out on firewall with success(meaning the app they were trying to start actually started ok). 
>> But I’m rather new on Mac to fiddle with firewall (or at least find option to stop any app for specific target with built in firewall).
>> 
>> Any help would be nice, or confirmation from LispWork guys (Martin for example) that it should be working/was tested with Big Sur and it is not an issue of lispworks as an application, but probably OS and apple services.
>> 
>> still thinking about my xmass wishes. Maybe Hobbyist edition that works on Big Sur? Waiting for confirmation (and ideally version that will work when I upgrade to Apple silicon later on - not to pay the price twice)
>> 
>> Ladislav Koščo
>> laci.kosco@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Nov 2020, at 14:37, mikel evins (as mevins at me dot com) <lisp-hug@lispworks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can confirm.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Krupka Michal <michal.krupka@upol.cz> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So the latest LW doesn't work on Big Sur. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Michal
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> lisp-hug@lispworks.com
>>>> http://www.lispworks.com/support/lisp-hug.html
>>> 
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