Hi Everyone, I'm curious does anyone know of a way to step through code like the way Visual studio does it except in the LW ide? I mean using a key like F8, instead of having to click a tiny button with the mouse at the top of the screen? -- Regards, William _______________________________________________ Lisp Hug - the mailing list for LispWorks users lisp-hug@lispworks.com http://www.lispworks.com/support/lisp-hug.html
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Hi! Problem is not with the keybinding. In fact the Lispworks stepper is still a pretty useless toy, so the convinience of a Visual Studio is not abailable (yet). No one steps the entire program through usually. One sets the breakpoint, runs program and then steps starting from that breakpoint. Consider the example: function "f" calls "g" and you set a breakpoint in "g", your breakpoint fires and you are currently in a "g". You begin stepping and at some point have to return to "f". In Visual Studio, you continue stepping through "f". This is not the case in the Lispworks. Problem is that the Lispworks needs to redefine any function it steps through. This is bad by itself as compiled code is substitued by the interpreted one. This occurs in a context which can differ from the one where the function was defined initially. So the function you step can differ dramatically from the function you call without stepping. It would be nice if the Lispworks had a native code stepper. Indeed there are some "known points" in a compiled code which are shown at backtrace in a debugger. Just stepping through them and setting breakpoints at them would suffice for a professional most of the time. The Lispworks contains other really useful tools for debugging: (break), trace, print, restart frame. Together with the ability to recompile a single function, these are rather powerful. But they are Spartian compared to VS if you just want to press one key and watch what goes on. _______________________________________________ Lisp Hug - the mailing list for LispWorks users lisp-hug@lispworks.com http://www.lispworks.com/support/lisp-hug.html
> > I have to disagree. I spend a lot of time walking code through the LW > stepper, and in spite of a couple of little quirks find it so useful > that I wonder how I ever managed without it. > I find the stepper fairly nice as well. My only issue was at times I found myself clicking the buttons at the top way to much to get at what I needed, either that or create a watch point. Now thanks to your key binding suggestion I'm a happy hacker. -- Regards, William _______________________________________________ Lisp Hug - the mailing list for LispWorks users lisp-hug@lispworks.com http://www.lispworks.com/support/lisp-hug.html
> Is there some magic in the IDE where it sees the in-package form and does something? Yes. Current package is changed in (in-package ...) form is present in a file. You can see it near the window's bottom. This is a must for all files to have IDE working correctly and for correct redefinition of a signle forms in a file with commands like "compile defun". If you don't use "compile defun" command, you certainly miss a half of CL's productivity, take a time to learn it. _______________________________________________ Lisp Hug - the mailing list for LispWorks users lisp-hug@lispworks.com http://www.lispworks.com/support/lisp-hug.html